As we were walking into the temple in January, I remarked to Anita how I wished that my rose trees looked as nice as the temple ones. The temple ones had long, drooping branches and were laden with blooms. Mine have always looked as if they needed to be trimmed off, if only to help them look better. I think I had a bug problem. So... I sprayed with dormant spray in January and now they look really GOOD! They have lots of pretty blooms and the leaves are shiny! I might even try some fertilizer. they're still not perfect.